Talk:University of Chicago

"Old University of Chicago" Differentiation

There is an ongoing dispute on how closely connected the current University of Chicago is with the Old University of Chicago. While this debate is worthy of transparent discussion on this talk page, there are mostly anonymous wikieditors making revisions to the University of Chicago wikipage without review that are meant to strengthen the association between these two entities. The majority of these changes are present in the second paragraph of the history section which I believe needs to be addressed. As an employee of the university, I do not have a NPOV, and will not make these edits myself. I am writing to request the input of neutral wiki-editors on how to move forward. Of my suggested edits, the second paragraph of this history section requires a number of revisions, clarifications and accurate citations for it to be a fair representation of the university's history. I would be happy to provide suggested revisions for review on this page if desired. StickerMug (talk) 11:54, 8 Aug 2018 (CST)

Simplifing History Section, Redirecting to History-Specific Page

I would suggest simplifying the entire History Section of this page and redirecting users to the History of the University of Chicago page for more detail. (This approach is similar to Stanford's succinct History section on its main page.) Ideally, having a singular wikipage that details the history of the university would allow all wikieditors interested in contributing to have a single place to discuss, debate, and apply agreed-upon changes. StickerMug (talk) 11:59, 8 Aug 2018 (CST)

Old University of Chicago Disambiguation

Suggested edit in History Section header: Change "Further information: Old University of Chicago" to "Disambiguation: Old University of Chicago". StickerMug (talk) 13:07, 8 Aug 2018 (CST)

"シカゴ大学" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect シカゴ大学 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 9 § シカゴ大学 until a consensus is reached. Certes (talk) 18:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Latin Translation

Is there a consensus that translations like this don't require a citation? Is Chicaginiensis correct Latin or Dog Latin? My edit adding a citation-needed tag was reverted with the explanation "No citation needed; "Chicaginiensis" is literally "Chicago" in Latin" and I don't understand why the claim after the semicolon doesn't require a citation. @Win8x: McYeee (talk) 23:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

I am not aware of any consensus concerning citations for that specific part of the infobox (can't see it on any other articles). Thanks for bringing it up here on the talk page, I looked online and I am noticing other translations for Chicago (notably Sicagum). I restored your edit on the article, but I wonder if other editors would like to tune in here. win8x (talking | spying) 23:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring and for your swift reply. I should clarify, I have no idea whether or not "Chicaginiensis" is correct. I don't even know if it's correct to say that there is a latin translation of University of Chicago. McYeee (talk) 23:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Oh nevermind, I just found a source for it. https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/scrc/archives/frequently-asked-questions-about-uchicago-history/ if you CTRL+F "Chicaginiensis" it will tell you that the seal of the university officially translates "University of Chicago" as "Universitatis Chicaginiensis". I added the source in the article. win8x (talking | spying) 23:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Regardless of one's personal opinion about whether this parameter should exist or be used in this article, Wikipedia policy and practice are both clear that unsourced information that has challenged in good faith by another editor should be supported by a source. ElKevbo (talk) 00:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Universitatis Chicaginiensis is "of the University of Chicago" (the full text is "Seal of the University of Chicago"), it's not the Latin for "University of Chicago". From this, the Latin name should be Universitas Chicaginiensis. Robminchin (talk) 00:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Got it. I didn't notice the Universitatis part, because I was only searching more information about Chicaginiensis. Thanks! win8x (talking | spying) 00:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

How about we just remove the words because they're completely unimportant and absolutely not among the most important set of summary information that readers need to read immediately? ElKevbo (talk) 23:36, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Why is that part of Template:Infobox university then? I think that's more of an issue of the template itself, because if it's not important here then it won't be important anywhere. I personally don't think we should remove it, it is nice to have that information available, and it fits well with the seal shown above it (like an image description). win8x (talking | spying) 23:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

There's an argument to be made that it should be included only for universities which actually use or used Latin to some extent, or which have hard-to-predict Latin names. We list University of Oxford as Universitas Oxoniensis which is not obvious and also seems like the kind of thing that we might want to know about Oxford. The University of California inboxes don't seem to have Latin names. McYeee (talk) 23:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that this parameter may be more meaningful for some institutions outside the U.S. especially those that are much older and may have some significant history regularly using Latin. But for most U.S. institutions, my sense is that the Latin name of an institution is used in one or maybe two places - the seal and maybe diplomas - and thus fails WP:DUE. ElKevbo (talk) 23:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough for the outside the US thing and WP:DUE. Considering how much sources I consulted before finding the one I used, you could remove the latin name from the infobox because it isn't used commonly. Either way, thanks for helping us out! win8x (talking | spying) 00:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Returning to Win8x's question: I don't know know why this parameter is included in this template. But simply being a parameter does not impose a requirement that editors use it. ElKevbo (talk) 23:58, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

translation of the moto

The given translation, while attested, seems somewhat suspect - "Crescat scientia" is like literally "May knowledge grow" or "Let science grow" or something along those lines. And the second part is "enrich life" or similar. The translation given right now is some kind of exaggerated or aggrandized reading. 67.1.101.71 (talk) 19:11, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

It appears the first part of the motto is actually a translation from Tennyson and the second part is altered from Virgil to suit a new sense in English. So the English "translation" is actually the original that was translated into Latin to create the official motto. See [1]. Robminchin (talk) 00:02, 12 March 2025 (UTC)